no other "verein" in germany has more teams in competition (Football & Cheerleading) than Wiesbaden.
GFL 2 Süd - 2010
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ILoveThisGame
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Well put Legend, and I applaud Wiesbaden for the work that they have done with the Junior programs, and the success, as a whole, in the organization. However, you will continue to lose the kids coming out of these programs if they do not have a winning organization (Senior Team) to move into.
You speak of bringing in an American QB as if it is a bad thing. Do you know how much of an impact an American QB could have on this organization, not just on the field every Saturday, but as a role model and mentor. And you recruit a kid who will work with your Junior programs. I would imagine most import players would love to help out in this capacity. I just have to ask though, what good is a winning Jugend program if all the studs are leaving and going to marburg, weinheim, Darmstadt, etc. Sure, you are exposing the programs to kids, and that is to be applauded, but I want to watch these kids playing on Saturday, winning a championship, and hoisting the trophy. I want to come to Europa and watch a GFL1 game! This kind of strategy makes us "1st loser" every season! HHHOOOORRRAAAYYY!
You speak of bringing in an American QB as if it is a bad thing. Do you know how much of an impact an American QB could have on this organization, not just on the field every Saturday, but as a role model and mentor. And you recruit a kid who will work with your Junior programs. I would imagine most import players would love to help out in this capacity. I just have to ask though, what good is a winning Jugend program if all the studs are leaving and going to marburg, weinheim, Darmstadt, etc. Sure, you are exposing the programs to kids, and that is to be applauded, but I want to watch these kids playing on Saturday, winning a championship, and hoisting the trophy. I want to come to Europa and watch a GFL1 game! This kind of strategy makes us "1st loser" every season! HHHOOOORRRAAAYYY!
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EarlHickey
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Naja seh das anders!man kann schnell jugendspieler werben!da andere Teams meist kein Vergleich bieten können!(ausserdem haben natio-coaches ja auch schon Spieler dazu gebracht nen GFLj Team sich zusuchen)aber naja nur weil er mal kurz in der jugend war,zubehaupten man macht alles aus jugend!find ich halt schwach!Dann sagt doch geben Geld lieber deutschen,oder so?dieser jugend Blabla hinkt doch sehr!
Klar habt c-jugend und b-jugend!und irgendwann vielleicht,aber jetzt eben noch net!
Ps:sorry also Hansen!
Klar habt c-jugend und b-jugend!und irgendwann vielleicht,aber jetzt eben noch net!
Ps:sorry also Hansen!
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There are quite a few who want to play "the big show" next season huh?legend hat geschrieben:
This philosophy leads us to one of the biggest and most successful football-organisation in the nation. State Championships by nearly every junior team year by year, no other "verein" in germany has more teams in competition (Football & Cheerleading) than Wiesbaden.
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When we will continue to grow, to build football players out of football kids, then we will play GFL 1 for sure somewhere in the future. To bring on and pay an american QB is not a part of a growing football-organisation. Success for a short time, maybe. Not more. So, let's buy some new shoulderpads for youngsters instead of a europlayers- or youtube-importThat's my opinion! And if someone likes to play in the "Big Show" (that isn't really one) he is free to taste it.
maybe " All that glistens is not gold" would fit here. No one is doubting your youth program it's great..one of the best in germany...but the adult team is always "the first loser" they always come in second...I don't think there is anything more frustrating than coming in second every goddamn year. I could understand that people from such a team say...hey lets go out and see what else is there...maybe a handfull of us in a other team could be enough to move up to play the big show which isnt acutally the big show...
ILTG: No, i am not saying that bringing in an US QB is a bad thing. We had that discussion about Franken, remember? They used to do it .... at least until until their young playmaker is ready to rock the seniors
Bad is it when things like at Kiel happens: Playing for the GFL championship and shut down their A Juniors at the same time. Well done, Canes!
We don't need a 22 year old former high school quarterback as a "mentor" or role model who has never experienced the german football organsiations and do not know anything about the german amateur sports anyway. We have very good coaches all over the nation who can teach a kid way more than an import player who played for the chakalookoo university of clock repair
Who is leaving? By now we are talking about players who follow a job offer to munich or will have a family next year, moving away from Wiesbaden. Some others will leave because they want to play GFL 1, for sure, or because they are fed up about the Phantoms. No bad thing. In 2010 you will see again a lot of young talent, local heroes, dedicated players, new kids with old veterans, in front of a dedicated crowd. No big deal, business as usual
Winning is everything ..... but not for every price.
Bad is it when things like at Kiel happens: Playing for the GFL championship and shut down their A Juniors at the same time. Well done, Canes!
We don't need a 22 year old former high school quarterback as a "mentor" or role model who has never experienced the german football organsiations and do not know anything about the german amateur sports anyway. We have very good coaches all over the nation who can teach a kid way more than an import player who played for the chakalookoo university of clock repair
Who is leaving? By now we are talking about players who follow a job offer to munich or will have a family next year, moving away from Wiesbaden. Some others will leave because they want to play GFL 1, for sure, or because they are fed up about the Phantoms. No bad thing. In 2010 you will see again a lot of young talent, local heroes, dedicated players, new kids with old veterans, in front of a dedicated crowd. No big deal, business as usual
Winning is everything ..... but not for every price.
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Naa lieber legend, die Gründe weshalb die Spieler wechseln, die bisher bekannt sind, sind nicht die, die du anbringst! Und das soltest du wissen.
Ich mein, wegen familie sich mehr Fahrzeit anzutun als wenn er in Wiesbaden bleibt? Macht wenig Sinn oder?
Und zum Thema Jugend:
Ja Wiesbaden wirbt Jugendspieler an. Wie hoffentlich jedes Team in Deutschland! Nur eben nicht von anderen Teams.
Das Spieler aber wechseln, weil die Natiocoaches so einen Mist wie: du mußt GFLJ spielen, ausgeben (wovon ich bisher noch nichts gehört habe) ist ja nicht die Schuld der GFLJ Teams.
Ich mein so einen Schwachsinn hat man bei der Herrennationalmannschaft ja auch lang genug praktiziert.
Und man macht viel in Wiesbaden aus seiner Jugend! Das ist mal unbestritten!
Ich mein, wegen familie sich mehr Fahrzeit anzutun als wenn er in Wiesbaden bleibt? Macht wenig Sinn oder?
Und zum Thema Jugend:
Ja Wiesbaden wirbt Jugendspieler an. Wie hoffentlich jedes Team in Deutschland! Nur eben nicht von anderen Teams.
Das Spieler aber wechseln, weil die Natiocoaches so einen Mist wie: du mußt GFLJ spielen, ausgeben (wovon ich bisher noch nichts gehört habe) ist ja nicht die Schuld der GFLJ Teams.
Ich mein so einen Schwachsinn hat man bei der Herrennationalmannschaft ja auch lang genug praktiziert.
Und man macht viel in Wiesbaden aus seiner Jugend! Das ist mal unbestritten!
22 year old who knows nothing,
Jets rookie QB
Lions Rookie QB
Eagles 2nd year QB
Ravens 3rd year QB
Multi Millions dollar salary's...
We can Coach a German QB...firstly you need a coach who was a QB and secondly a QB coach that understands and teaches Reads, Progressions, 3 step timing, hot calls, check to me´s.
In Middle school in American this has started
High School, reads, progression and steps taken to a higher level
College. What an offense is, what a defense is, when the edge is open, when the MOF is open. Roll and read, reverse step placement to throw across the body. Picking the blitz and timing the Hot receiver.
This list goes on and on... I find it amusing that people comment about QB´s and really have no idea of what goes into the making of a QB.
By the time a QB has a chance to play in the NFL he is schooled very well. unless he is a Vick or one of these half ass QB´s who really cannot adjust or have played on God given ability´s...Vince Young is a perfect example, he has had a chance to start again but they are now running TEXAS offense style he ran in college, even the option! Why the Owner wants results, he is getting them but will lose out in the long run, running QB´s in the NFL have a lifespan of an ant.
Look at a real made QB who will have a great future in the NFL, Max Hall from BYU...this kid is the real deal as far as pro.Had high INT rate in 2008, but has cut it in half in 2009...BYU in a football factory for QB´s.
Good German Qb´s are few and one could count them on two hands and that is Youth and Senior. German QB coaches are just as rare, many know the principle and the theory but do not know to apply it. Your A, B or C license will not cover it.
Buy a QB and move up. 2005-2009, the "we can Coach" approach has not worked and will probably not work in 2010. Face it right now WP has no QB.
Guido in Munich and Grimm in Darmstadt, who is #3?
So save your money and look to the future, hey the Chinese did it and now they are the up and coming super power, only took them 3000 years... but hey they paid good Yuan for all their gold medals and hired the best coaches in the world ... who knows next expansion team may be the Beijing Red Stars!
Make Texican the President of AFVD.
He promises, Beer at all games, Cheerleaders who are Hot and GFL 1-2-3 and players get to be on TV.
He promises, Beer at all games, Cheerleaders who are Hot and GFL 1-2-3 and players get to be on TV.
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EarlHickey
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Was hat das Kiel Beispiel damit zutun!
Warum die jugend zurück zog?ich glaub hatte wohl wenig mit der Herrenmannschaft ansich zutun!ich meine du hast nen jugendcoach und Jugendspieler,was hat das mit der ersten zutun!außer halt Unterbau(aber das gib's ja Net wirklich)!man leitet halt schnell ab!geben alles geld in die erste!aber das tut der jugend ja auch gut!und sollange du nen Platz(gib's vom Bund) nen coach!und ein paar alte Ausrüstungen!Spieler die wollen!wie soll die erste das behindert haben?
Warum die jugend zurück zog?ich glaub hatte wohl wenig mit der Herrenmannschaft ansich zutun!ich meine du hast nen jugendcoach und Jugendspieler,was hat das mit der ersten zutun!außer halt Unterbau(aber das gib's ja Net wirklich)!man leitet halt schnell ab!geben alles geld in die erste!aber das tut der jugend ja auch gut!und sollange du nen Platz(gib's vom Bund) nen coach!und ein paar alte Ausrüstungen!Spieler die wollen!wie soll die erste das behindert haben?
gutes beispiel sind da die Düsseldorf Panther (nicht wegen import/weiss das auch net ob die imports haben) aber sie haben eine sehr starke jugen wievielmaliger Deutscher jugend meister? Und man spielt "nur"in der GFL2 Und da frag ich mich wo geht die jugendarbeit hin.
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EarlHickey
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Ja aber das ist ja überall!sogar in Wiesbaden!da sind dann keine Imports!aber bessere deutsche Spieler!und die echten WP Jugendspieler bleiben auch Net wirklich lange im Kader!
Denk an Perspektive liegt das Net,das ne jugend zurück zieht!oder habt ihr euch mit 15j darüber Gedanken gemacht,ob in 5jahren mal nen Import vor euch wäre!Das glaub ich Net!!
Und Düsseldorf hängt meiner Meinung nach daran das die Spieler kommen um Meister zuwerden!danach ist jede andere Mannschaft in NRW gleich gut ist!glaub 5teams gfl2 und essen in der GFL!sehe in Wiesbaden langsam das selbe passieren!nur gib's in hessen halt Net soviele gleichwertige Teams wie da!
Denk an Perspektive liegt das Net,das ne jugend zurück zieht!oder habt ihr euch mit 15j darüber Gedanken gemacht,ob in 5jahren mal nen Import vor euch wäre!Das glaub ich Net!!
Und Düsseldorf hängt meiner Meinung nach daran das die Spieler kommen um Meister zuwerden!danach ist jede andere Mannschaft in NRW gleich gut ist!glaub 5teams gfl2 und essen in der GFL!sehe in Wiesbaden langsam das selbe passieren!nur gib's in hessen halt Net soviele gleichwertige Teams wie da!