Verbandsliga Bayern 2010

[Field General]

Pretty fucked up if you ask me... those players have no skill. None of them capable of using strength for a block so they cut the knees...... come on man a fucking cut block in the endzone 15yards or more from the play?

y'all are some mark ass bitches

I knew this crap was coming.......And your name calling is any better? Insulting your opponents on a forum......another pretty weak excuse that doesnt change the scoreboard at all.......

[Obiwan]

Pretty fucked up if you ask me... those players have no skill. None of them capable of using strength for a block so they cut the knees...... come on man a fucking cut block in the endzone 15yards or more from the play?

y'all are some mark ass bitches

I knew this crap was coming.......And your name calling is any better? Insulting your opponents on a forum......another pretty weak excuse that doesnt change the scoreboard at all.......

Goalline = D- Line Stand up and hope you don't get pushed backwards from lack of strength or what?

That's like putting 8 Defenders in the box, and getting mad because the offense throws a deep pass.

Use skill to take out the 3 Leadblockers, hmm, I thought the first man had to take out the lead blockers. hmm.
Well, he does have two hands, but what do you do with the third lead blocker? Maybe Jedi Mind Trick?

A no skill offense requires a no skill defense...
Silly.

[Field General]

Pretty fucked up if you ask me... those players have no skill. None of them capable of using strength for a block so they cut the knees...... come on man a fucking cut block in the endzone 15yards or more from the play?

y'all are some mark ass bitches

I knew this crap was coming.......And your name calling is any better? Insulting your opponents on a forum......another pretty weak excuse that doesnt change the scoreboard at all.......

Goalline = D- Line Stand up and hope you don't get pushed backwards from lack of strength or what?

That's like putting 8 Defenders in the box, and getting mad because the offense throws a deep pass.

Use skill to take out the 3 Leadblockers, hmm, I thought the first man had to take out the lead blockers. hmm.
Well, he does have two hands, but what do you do with the third lead blocker? Maybe Jedi Mind Trick?

A no skill offense requires a no skill defense...
Silly.

Doesnt take much skill to put a group of guys together and blow forward...just like it requires no skill to cut block the same group of guys just to expose the ball let alone tackle the ball carrier....and the only other way to do this...is to match that o line man for man ...also with no splits..and that still does nothing about the 2 lead blockers coming out of the backfield......but what defensive unit do you know .....thats going to cater to any offense......? But lets say erlangen atlease *tried* to mix run and pass out that formation...they can keep defenses honest. But when the world knows your going to run, it makes life that much more easier.....

[Bruschii]

never played even close to your league.... cutting someones knees like that... especially far away from the play is low and dirty... make all the excuses you want obiwan....... weak defensive players with no strength and skill go for the knees.

[hisdudeness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KugXPXNj798

TCU defensive stand against a old fashioned power offense (yes Erlangen that is what you run)

So they are a bunch of marks to? Or all the coaches in the US that teach that style of defense against that style of offense.

So there are two realistic options if you do not like that

Stop running the wedge play out of the double wing
Or learn about football before you complain. It is perfectly within the rules of the game.

[Bruschii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KugXPXNj798

TCU defensive stand against a old fashioned power offense (yes Erlangen that is what you run)

So they are a bunch of marks to? Or all the coaches in the US that teach that style of defense against that style of offense.

So there are two realistic options if you do not like that

Stop running the wedge play out of the double wing
Or learn about football before you complain. It is perfectly within the rules of the game.

try posting from a game that isn't 26 years old slick

[Obiwan]

The problem with the D-Wing Wing ist that the Wing Backs are usually HalfBacks and not Recievers.
And when you put good Recievers which aren't potentialy good RunningBacks on the Wing, then it's obvious (to most) either Pass or Dive.
With the entire Offense in the box, it's hard to throw anything besides Outside Patterns. But if the Defense only uses a 4 man line, then one could sneak a couple of crossing patterns in there.
With a 4 Man D-Line you won't get any pressure on the QB, and you won't get any penetration to disrupt the long developing off-tackle plays.

I think with a 6-1 Gaps you can take away the dive, the off-tackle, the Flat, the Post and still get pressure on the QB.
The Ends have to disrupt the TE's (Pass).
If the QB want's time to throw, then the RB will have to block to the side where TE and Wing Back release. There are no reserve Blockers for the pocket.
LB is a Spy, and when the QB >Lead Blocks, his assignment is to take out the QB (um lead-blocker) . He also sees the counter-play comming when he reads the QB...

Safetys Read TE & Wing Back release, call the potential playside of the pre-snap movement of the WingBack.
After the DE slows down the TE the Corner has man responsibility.
The Overload Side safety has deep outside, the Backside Safety deep middle.
The LB has to "slow down" the crossing TE from the over loaded side.

And no matter what happens, cut down the lead blockers, or you won't have a chance.

[Obiwan]

never played even close to your league.... cutting someones knees like that... especially far away from the play is low and dirty... make all the excuses you want obiwan....... weak defensive players with no strength and skill go for the knees.

We tried playing skill defense. It didn't work.

[Obiwan]

The hardest football i've ever played wasn't GFL or any other league in Europe, it was High School in the States.
Everything one sees here is harmless in comparison. More like hand holding...

[Rainer#74]

ich find auch das der letzte tiefe block da in der endzone nicht sein muss. der spieler hat sich halt dazu entschieden den so zu blocken.. vielleicht weil er es nicht anders kann, es ihm nicht anders beigebracht wurde oder er hatte keine lust auf kopfschmerzen..
aber vom grundthema her haben tiefe blocks nix mit skill oder sonst was zu tun.. selbst in auswahlmannschaften gibts spielzüge wo ein cutblock eingebaut ist.
ich finde das video garnicht so schlecht (also das letzte jetzt hier) egal wie alt es ist.
es sollte aber vielleicht eher über den einen tiefen block da in der endzone diskutiert werden und nicht über den "skill" von einem teifen block..

[hisdudeness]

That offense is that old tough guy! So should I play a defense that is newer and designed for a spread offense against a double wing? If your answer is anything but no, then come to my house so I can hit you in the head with a hammer because you don't need anything up there anyway.

[Obiwan]

@ Rainer
Der Hammer ist, die Backjudge hat es nicht bemängelt.
Natürlich war es ein Faul, nur ob es Böse Absichten im Spiel war ist fragwürdig.

Ich hätte ihn den Shulter auf den Brust gelegt. Dass wäre noch schlimmer gewesen.

[hisdudeness]

It is legal, could it have been done different yes, but this is the middle of a hard fought game! No one tries to hurt anyone else (at least I hope not) but it is football. An understanding that this is a dangerous sport. If you play longer than ten to fifeteen years there is a good chance you have had a surgery or two. But it is all part of the game. Players are taught to play all out until the whistle. It is a split second desicion for him to make based on what he sees. But no one is trying to hurt other people, and if they are only that person knows he is doing it. We all play because we love the sport, and that love really comes out if you have been under the knife for the sport. There should be no bad blood between any teams. It is something we do for fun and with our hearts, but men are competetive by nature. Lets have a good clean second half of the season and then go beat up on whatever South teams want to show up!

[Rainer#74]

Natürlich war es ein Faul, nur ob es Böse Absichten im Spiel war ist fragwürdig.

das glaub ich halt auch ned. denke eher das es eine aktion ist die er in einer ziemlich kurzen zeit entschieden hat zu tun.

wobei ich eher den helmkontakt gesucht hätte ^^ aber da ich dick bin und eh nie soweit hinten steh muss ich mir über sowas keine gedanken machen

[Rainer#74]

It is legal,

glaub ich nicht.. gibts nicht seit einer oder zwei saisons die regel das solche blocks weit weg vom spielgeschehen nicht erlaubt sind? und ich mein der hat ja mit dem spielzug nix zu tun..